nick cave artist interview

Not in that sense, but I dream. And, in fact, my most recent two exhibitions at Jack Shainman Gallery did not contain any Soundsuits. And now I’m like, “Oh, damn. Tomorrow (Saturday, February 23) the new exhibition Nick Cave: Feat. MB: Right. Facebook. NC: Exactly. ; 1982). And empowerment. MB: I come from a similar thing. I first came across your work when I was a teenager, at the Contemporary Arts Museum in Houston. I am so much more open—I see differently, I experience life differently, and that’s a beautiful thing. You find that you’re not alone, going through this experience. There were moments where I… situations where… projects that fell apart, performances that fell apart in front of, like, 3,000 people. I feel called to action, and I’m trying to find a way, as a visual artist with a specific sense of responsibility, to be proactive. That was my first reaction—just, “What is going on here?” Because it’s very imposing, especially for a kid. From that moment, I became an artist with a conscience. Why Artist Nick Cave Is Commanding the Spotlight Globally The creative multi-hyphenate speaks with AD about mastering sculpture, performance, installations, and the zeitgeist By Brook Mason The moment you understand why you’re doing it, and the influence that you can have through what you’re doing as a creative being, then it all makes sense. NC: No. So there’s always this very dark, underlying message that is—. Interview by Stanley Nelson at the artist’s studio in Chicago on December 15, 2015. For the space, the artist Nick Cave created “Truth Be Told,” intending to inspire a conversation about racial justice and policing in the wake of … The Soundsuits became integral parts of Cave’s practice, and this original experience also awakened a sense of civic responsibility in the artist. It allows me to be clearer, get clearer. MB: That sounds great. Look for the plus icon next to videos throughout the site to add them here. NC: So, I find working in this very fluid way allows enough sensibility to remain. In addition to the value is this vast library of video works and performance works. It allows me to be protected, to not get distracted. MB: Hey, if that’s the entrance plan, I’m glad. I had to let everything go that was in my life—relationships, people—in order to see if this was possible. I do these projects where I can’t draw it, I have to make it. I gotta get back in the game.” So that’s what I did. These dazzling sculptural costumes are made of thousands of found objects, buttons, old toys, and other everyday items, but their visual brilliance conceals a darker message. It’s gotten me to understand who I am. I thought, “I’ve got to figure this out.” But I’m one of the lucky ones. Yet, at the same time, there are still opportunities. You would never know that. MB: Totally. Related Artist Nick Cave Talks About Surrendering to the Sacred We need places to go where we can just surrender to the environment that we’re experiencing. I know it will be immersive and it will be joyful, and scary, like it was when you first saw a [Soundsuit]. His mother, Sharon, raised him and his seven brothers. For the MASS MoCA show, I wanted to put the viewer into the metaphorical belly of a Soundsuit. Nick Cave, Until (2016) installation view, MASS MoCA. NC: So that’s the beauty of where I’m at now in my career. I wanted to talk about what really provokes me to do the work that I do, what gets me charged, and what is disturbing to me. It’s frightening, but you can’t look away. As a student at George Washington Carver School in Fulton, Missouri and at West Junior High School in Columbia, Missouri, Cave showed creativity and artistic ability at a young age. And I’m in the studio… you know, Trayvon, it goes on and on. NC: What’s been interesting in the past five years is that I’ve had the “studio-away-from-home studio”. Without the people, there wouldn’t be art. The buoyant appearance of the Soundsuits, composed of kitschy materials such as beads and plastic tchotchkes, belies their serious connotations. I was in the studio, thinking, “What the hell is going on?” All of these events made me wonder whether there is racism in heaven, and that really was the beginning of the show. I’m also excited to stand back and watch how Until will deliver itself to viewers. I can’t think of anything since Barbara Kruger. I think I’m a messenger first and an artist second. You find that you’re not alone”, {{watchlist.lookupAttr('progress', video)}} /. And that this experience had given them permission to be who they need to be was just everything. And it may not be something that occurs right away, it could happen 5 to 10 years afterwards. MB: Right. Yes, these objects are out there, in the space of disparity and repression, but I do not operate there. So it’s really lived in this un-peculiar kind of place that tends to arouse some sort of emotion. MB: Right. Its formality is based there, but there’s a higher reason for the delivery. NC: Well, they used this program where it’s midnight—I’m not sure what it’s called—and they invite artists to do video work. Lately I’ve been selling performance works, which is amazing because there are museums that will take care of each performance, and they will continue to perform the piece. You know how sometimes we’re scared, but at the same time we’re drawn to something that’s seducing us? As I’ve gotten older, seeing your work has turned more into intrigue and curiosity, and also more celebration. The Soundsuits became … MB: Yeah. It was really very strange. “I sit in silence every day. Like, “The Let Go” lives somewhere for ever, and it’s performed for ever. Portrait by Sandro. This summer, his most recent show, “The Let Go,” was performed several times each week at the Park Avenue Armory by the Mama Foundation for the Arts and the Sing Harlem Choir, in collaboration with the creative director Bob Faust. I’m horrible at it. I was willing to risk it all to find out that it is possible. You pass through this [immersive] environment to find the video installation. I am an artist with civic responsibility. Graduating from Hickman High School in 1977, he enrolled … Nick Cave: Meet Me At The Center Of The Earth January 10 – May 30, 2010. MB: It was pretty crazy for me to see that visually. So when I was watching “The Let Go,” this process of all of these components being brought out to all these normal people, dancers, and then being equipped with all of these…. Denise Markonish, curator of MASS MoCA, came to my studio in 2015, at the beginning of the year, and said, “We want to offer you gallery 5—we’ll be back in a year to see what you have decided to do.” And I hadn’t been thinking about it and then, all of a sudden, [Freddie’s death] triggered the project. MB: That’s crazy. Now I’m in this extraordinary place of creativity and way of working, and hopefully hosting the communities and providing other people platforms to stand on, and to see what’s possible. I’ll sit on those stairs they have there in Times Square… I love going there at midnight. Nick Cave created his first Soundsuit after the Rodney King beating in 1992. I’m not stressed ever. As opposed to repressing those feelings or—. It’s getting that to video, and all the data. The public artwork has been attacked by … MB: Amazing. All Rights Reserved. But that’s not really important. You were first inspired by Rodney King and his beating in 1991, right? NC: Yeah, and then you’re like, “Gotta go.” I think we’re suppose to be living in the world as opposed to living in the country. NC: Oh, yeah. These opportunities are extraordinary, but I understand them because I’ve been on that path for so long. And for me that’s how everything is possible. MB: Right. I graduated from high school in 2009, but it was a very homophobic environment and it was very… That still lingers, to the point where I’m a very different person if I go back now. NC: Well, that’s the whole idea. It’s really about creating the setting for us now to do the work that is asked. MB: I read somewhere that you started making these Soundsuits as a way of creating your own armor, a form of protection. So, if I’m on my way to Sydney in November to install “Until,” the project I did at MASS MoCA [Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art], I’m there for a month and a half, and find this is my new studio practice, that it’s my studio- away-from-home studio. NC: We could all go together, how about that? Later he fabricated a symbolic suit of armor, using hundreds of collected twigs. Even the Soundsuits, somebody has to dance in them. The lawn jockeys often hold lanterns in a subservient position; in this installation, I wanted to shift that [image]. And no defining that through any particular [thing], but just what is your self-hood, what is that made up of, and how do you prove that? Cave and I talked on the phone about his exhibition, Until, and how his work will stimulate questions about equality in America. My mind races like crazy. So that means I now have to put it out into the universe. And I’ve been sitting in silence for decades because, as a creative person, you’re the judge of the time you’re alone. The first Soundsuit was a response to the beating of Rodney King, and more recently you created a Soundsuit after Trayvon Martin’s death, called TM13. MB: [Texas] is such a strange place. The incident in 1992 put me in a very vulnerable position; [it made me defensive]. It’s police shootings, it’s BBQ Becky, discrimination…. MB: It’s real. Standing up to fear is how I was able to… and just gambling my ass off, too. But it was not something I really thought about. Nick Cave: 'I have to spend hours talking to fucking idiots like you' It's August 1988 and the Bad Seeds frontman and 'journalist's nightmare' is in ferocious, fighting form. I would go to the Museum of Natural History and look at all these artifacts and art objects, which all served a purpose within a particular culture. I think it was brought to my attention when I was 12, when I was at high school—[I was told], “You have this unique talent and you should consider pursuing thatas your undergraduate degree.” But, you know, at that age, you think, “OK, sure.”. [The beating was a sign] for me to take responsibility. Yeah, I know how much changing a space can change everything. NC: Yeah. It’s kinda crazy. © 2020 RAIN Magazine. MB: That’s amazing. Art and Law Artist Nick Cave’s Controversial Upstate New York Artwork Has Found a New Home at the Brooklyn Museum. NC: That’s the first time I’ve ever said that. NC: Yeah, but at the same time I wanted to have that very daunting thought of un-peculiar sensibility to it. Save videos to watch later, or make a selection to play back-to-back using the autoplay feature. It’s not a very accessible venue, necessarily. This morning, the Chicago crime stats came out for the month of October. As you move through the installation, you enter a crystal cloudscape, an enormous sculptural object suspended in the air. Now that you’ve completed this project, what’s next? NC: No, not really. You’re surrounded by information and just visuals. It’s like with the magazine, how do you create this magazine so that it has a purpose? The Rodney King beating put me in the position to be the voice of the innocent. We have about ten performers that will present or perform in the space through the duration of the show. Nick Cave, (born February 4, 1959, Jefferson City, Missouri, U.S.), American artist best known for his wearable mixed-media constructions known as Soundsuits, which act simultaneously as fashion, sculpture, and noisemaking performance art.. Cave began exploring fibre arts and fashion while attending the Kansas City (Missouri) Art Institute (B.F.A. The whole, “Shit, I need to buy food, but I’m gonna buy art supplies.” It was all a gamble and about falling on your face. This exhibition is also a space for convening. That was my first Nick Cave moment. NC: Exactly. So that’s how MASS MoCA came about. Once I came to terms with that, the art thing became very different for me. As a creative person, you’re the judge of the time you’re alone. Oh my God, there were moments where I just had to make sacrifices, too. 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